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Post by ChrisShiversFan on Mar 3, 2006 17:36:21 GMT -5
i got into a talk fight with people at my school because they said bull riding is animal cruelty. now i know for a fact that it isn't.they said because of the reasons they buck and thats cruelty. can some 1 help me and tell me if it is even though i know for a fact it isn't but they wont believe me so i want proof off the Internet.
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Post by Mike_LeeFan on Mar 3, 2006 18:11:48 GMT -5
yea i get harrased by people too about bull riding and steer roping and all of them. ok first off the animals can't be harmed because they need them for the event if they were miss treated PETA would stop them and there would be no event. no the bucking strap doesn't go around there balls or what ever it is people think, it's there so the bull thinks it has something around them and they are trying to kick it off it's not on there tight or too loose they do it with the horses too. if contractors don't like the way the bull rider is treating the animal or whatever they can take there bull out and not have the bull used. these animals are athletes too and are taken very good care of given the best food and treatment, without them there would be no rodeo. a bulls skin is 7 times tougher then a humans. here's the deffinition the PBR gives for flank strap: As its name suggests, a flank strap is a strap that goes around the flank of a bull. Its purpose is to enhance the natural bucking motion of a bull and to encourage the animal to extend its hind legs when trying to get his rider on the ground. The flank strap never covers or goes around a bull’s genitals, and no sharp or foreign objects are ever placed inside the flank strap to agitate the animal. Furthermore, a flank strap cannot be too tight around the bull’s flank or the bull will be too uncomfortable to perform. Pulling the flank strap too tight would restrict a bull’s motion, resulting in an inferior performance by the bull and quite possibly a reride for the bull rider. The flank strap is designed for quick release and is removed immediately after the bull exits the arena.
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Post by jodynewberryfan on Mar 3, 2006 18:50:54 GMT -5
Everyone is entitled to there opinion but the only one that really matters(in my personal opinion) is your own.
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Post by chrishiversfan2006 on Mar 3, 2006 18:54:40 GMT -5
I agree with Jodynewberry fan on this one (trust me I don't do that very often considering that person is my sibling). The only opinion that really matters is your own. I personally know that the bulls are bred specifically for bucking and the flank is on just tight enough for him to know its there. The bulls buck cause they like to/were born to not cause they are being forced too.
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Post by ChrisShiversFan on Mar 3, 2006 19:08:54 GMT -5
that u very much!!!
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Post by csb on Mar 3, 2006 20:59:32 GMT -5
Ever seen bulls that just run off? Thats because they dont want to buck. If a flank strap was tight, a bull would not be able to buck. If a flank strap was somehow attached to the bulls genitals, the bull would not buck. The best arguement to use against those who say that flank straps are attached to the animals genitals is female bucking horses - how in the world do flankmen attach the flank strap to their genitals?
For those that say other peoples opinions dont matter....Thats why animal rights activists are so abundant. If you just blow someone off saying "the only opinion that matters is your own" they keep their ignorant mindset, and spread the propoganda.
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Post by wycowboy on Mar 4, 2006 1:24:26 GMT -5
If someone says it's cruel they just don't understand bull riding or rodeo. Anyone around rodeo knows that all of the animals in rodeo are some of the best kept animals around. I'm not saying some bulls or other animals don't get hurt, but rodeo isn't cruelty by any means. God Bless
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Post by jodynewberryfan on Mar 4, 2006 8:23:30 GMT -5
For those that say other peoples opinions dont matter....Thats why animal rights activists are so abundant. If you just blow someone off saying "the only opinion that matters is your own" they keep their ignorant mindset, and spread the propoganda. I never said that the opinions of others didn't matter....what I said was that the only opinion that matters is your own....if you think it's animal cruelty that's your opinion but if you don't think it's cruelty that's also your opinion. Again I didn't mean to imply that the opinion of others is no good I just think that you should be able to take those opinions and form your own opinion. I know that my original post did not get that across and I am sorry.
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Mike_LeeFan
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Post by Mike_LeeFan on Mar 5, 2006 1:32:54 GMT -5
For those that say other peoples opinions dont matter....Thats why animal rights activists are so abundant. If you just blow someone off saying "the only opinion that matters is your own" they keep their ignorant mindset, and spread the propoganda. thank you! yea everyone has there own opinion but when they know the wrong facts and are bashing rodeo's that's just not right and you need to set them straight.
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Post by rossco4worldchamp on Mar 5, 2006 9:59:10 GMT -5
I do have to admit, I too thought this. I had never even watched any kind of Rodeo event on TV, or had ever dreamed about going to one, but a friend of mine asked if I wanted to drive 10 hours to go to a bull riding event in Columbus last year and I was a bit hesitant. I went, and boy am I glad I did! When I was there I realized that the last thing these people want to do is hurt the animal. For starters, these people make their living off of these animals. If they got the reputation of hurting the bulls, they sure wouldn't be in business for long. Then you see how much they care for them. I cannot remember which bull it is, but there is one that the owner brings bottled water for because the bull will not drink any water other than the water at home. Anyways, I just wanted to say that the best way to prove your point is to actually show them or invite them over to watch an event and point out the rope and the location of it-just a thought, it worked for me!
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Post by jamiesjustapbrfan on Mar 5, 2006 10:23:11 GMT -5
It's reindeer dippin' that won't drink water except that from home....Julio Mereno is a great guy in my opinion for recognizing that and bring him water from home. A lot of people I know would have been like "tough" and would have just let him go like that until he got home.
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Post by chrisshiversn2006 on Mar 5, 2006 12:39:12 GMT -5
well i can see both sides of the argument. One being the fact that a bull is doing an unatural action by bucking with a flank strap on. After all, i drive by many places and never see a bull with a flank strap on in the pasture. With that being said i LOVE the challenge of bullriding and is why i watch it. The riders and the bulls are tremendous athletes and i will watch as long as i can and continue to support the sport of Bullriding.
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Post by chrisshiversluver on Mar 6, 2006 10:14:40 GMT -5
I dont think that it is an 'unnatural' action. I think that some bulls are meant to buck, and if they are most of them love their jobs. if it was unnatural then somebody would have to force them to buck, and thats not the case at all.
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Post by chrisshiversn2006 on Mar 6, 2006 10:30:19 GMT -5
You got me....I'm sorry i never new Flank Straps were natural.LMAO like i said you got me there.
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