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Post by justapbrfan on Dec 29, 2005 17:25:01 GMT -5
I was just wondering what other peoples thoughts were on the Champion Exemption rule? I don't like it one bit. If your not lying in heap on the ground somewhere or are injured enough that you think that you may cause yourself and possibly others harm then yes you should stay at home but if that is not the case get your scrawny white a$$ on the plane darn it! Pulling a Mcbride just doesn't sit well with me. I'm sure it hurts but buck up....You ride bulls for a living d**n it, your made of a completely different kind of metal than the rest of us.
Just my two cents worth...Jamie
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Post by milo on Dec 29, 2005 18:43:57 GMT -5
Only my opinion, but I don't think there should be a champion's exemption. I didn't like the way Troy Dunn would come over and win enough to qualify for the finals, then go back to Australia. Either they want to ride or they don't. Champion or no, if they want to participate, they abide by the same rules as before they won the championship. Injuries and health concerns are legitimate excuses, but hectic schedules are not - they chose to ride in the PBR and should be prepared to pay the price of fame and big $$$.
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Post by justapbrfan on Dec 29, 2005 19:05:31 GMT -5
Here Here...Totally agree with you buddy. There should be no exceptions for those who just happen to have a slightly shiner belt buckle than the rest and are a "few" dollars richer than everybody else also. Jamie
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Post by rossco4worldchamp on Dec 29, 2005 19:47:33 GMT -5
I may be new to the sport, but I think that the rule is a dumb one. You can really tell who is riding for the money and who is riding for the love of the sport. Now, I know that he has some injuries, but why couldn't he have been resting those during the off time? I think because he is the World Champion of the PBR, he should be loyal to the PBR.
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Post by brianranse on Dec 29, 2005 21:42:09 GMT -5
So having a family and a (big)farm on the other side of the world should be forgotten.... The Rule i think is good. It says hey you have achieved something you can rest up a little.
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Post by chrisshiversn2006 on Dec 29, 2005 21:52:45 GMT -5
The biggest thing here i believe is the fact that he has put everything he had into the past three years and finnaly reached his goals. He is tired. Physically he is able to compete but mentally he is still very tired. I do not know him but I do know how hard it is to recover mentally from something than physically from something.
He is a tremendous athlete and i dont think anymore should be made of it. He took an event off, we all need a break and should not be questioned. I hope he comes back and is as succesful as he was last year.
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Post by Homeslice on Dec 29, 2005 22:58:48 GMT -5
And plus, you still have to earn your way to Vegas like anyone else, so that I think should be fair.
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Post by CThrash13 on Dec 29, 2005 23:24:37 GMT -5
Well, as I've mentioned already, I don't agree with the championship exemption rule. The fans want to see the best bull riders in the world, and that's what we deserve to see. The PBR riders already have the entire summer off to do as they please. Some go to PRCA rodeos or CT events, but that's up to them. That should be their time to take a break from the BFTS events. That may sound cold-hearted, but I've been tagged that before.  If Justin goes down for surgery, then I can understand the situation. But guys ride with injuries every week, and he should be no different just because he won a world title. Also, I don't think the past world champs should get exemption into any event on the BFTS. I think they should have to work their way through their struggles and get promoted just like all the other young guys. We are supposed to see the top-45 bull riders week in and week out, and there are times where some of the past champs aren't in that group but still get to compete. I know it doesn't matter what I think, but I still like to speak out about it. It makes me feel better inside. |
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Post by csb on Dec 30, 2005 0:25:25 GMT -5
I say take all the time off you want. These guys are only hitting 31 events a year, its not like they are rodeoing hard or anything. They dont have to hit every show just to make it to the finals - 3 to 5 good rides gets you to Vegas. Make a dozen good rides, thats enough to pay the bills and have some left over. If youve won a world championship why bust ass all year? You have already accomplished the goal of every rider out there. Save yourself, enter enough events to keep yourself sharp and earn enough money to get to Vegas.
All of the guys riding bulls are riding for the money. You can love the sport all you want, but love doesnt pay the bills. If you want to make a long career out of riding bulls, taking time off is only going to help.
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Post by pbrbigfan on Dec 30, 2005 1:07:46 GMT -5
I kind of find it amusing that most of you (except csb) have probably never put your life on the line by riding bulls for a living but are very quick to bash someone who does for not riding. World Champion or not, if he's hurt he doesn't have to be there. You don't have to be a world champion to miss an event because of injury. Grant it, his "agent" should have chosen his words a bit more carefully because I think the way he said things is what caused the problem.
Until you've strapped yourself on to a bull yourself, I don't think you are qualified to decide how hurt is too hurt to ride or to stay home.
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Post by csb on Dec 30, 2005 3:31:17 GMT -5
Well, Ive never been in that position - riding to pay the bills, that is. Guys that ride bulls arent any different than regular guys except they are more handsome, have more money, are better with the ladies, and their breath alway smells better. Thats all. When they are hurt, they need time off. They perform better when healthy and the guys that realize that are the guys who win the money. d**n, that was the first time that pbrbigfan ever said anything in my favor! The times, they are a changin'! |
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Post by CThrash13 on Dec 30, 2005 10:00:28 GMT -5
I kind of find it amusing that most of you (except csb) have probably never put your life on the line by riding bulls for a living but are very quick to bash someone who does for not riding. World Champion or not, if he's hurt he doesn't have to be there. You don't have to be a world champion to miss an event because of injury. Grant it, his "agent" should have chosen his words a bit more carefully because I think the way he said things is what caused the problem. Until you've strapped yourself on to a bull yourself, I don't think you are qualified to decide how hurt is too hurt to ride or to stay home. Like I've always said, as long as I'm paying to see the PBR in person and paying extra money each month on my cable bill to get OLN, I can sure say whatever the heck I feel about anything PBR-related. The fans are paying the bull rider's salaries, and we have every right to call someone out. Like you said, it was probably his agent's fault for making it sound crappy, but that's all we have to go by so far until Justin makes a statement about the situation. When Justin speaks on it, it will be more clear. But as of now, it looks pretty shady. And besides, a psycho killer could come into State Farm Insurance on any given day and shoot me and the rest of my co-workers. But I still come to work everyday. Yeah, bad example. But hopefully it added a little humor to the situation. |
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Post by chrisshiversn2006 on Dec 30, 2005 19:43:34 GMT -5
You know we all need to just except the fact he is out and hope he comes back soon. I really think he should have taken a leave of absence if he needed a break this bad. Do look on the bright side of all this at least another rookie will get a shot. To who ever said he won't qualify for the finals you are probably right but all it takes is one win and he will get that so to qualify wont be a problem.
With this rule though i see that BFTS becoming the challenger tour if everyone used there exemptions and takes time off. Now how sad would that be.
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Post by onehotcowboy on Dec 30, 2005 23:30:37 GMT -5
Well I hope you dont think Im "BASHING" anyone. But if you do...it was stated you shouldnt unless you have been in there shoes...well...I have been, so here is my take on it. I have no problem with ANYONE takin time off. However...Im not real sure what the World Champ exemption rule is, but I do think that every year, is a "NEW" year...for EVERYONE. You should have to qualify, or compete with EVERYONE to be at the top. Just because I won the world back in 96...doesnt mean that I automaticly can get the TV events. I should have to "EARN" my way there...just like I had to before, and just like everyone else has to. Even if you havent won a world title...you still have to be out there earning your way. Just to clarify...Im NOT bashing anyone !!! If you have family or a BIG farm way across the big pond, or just down the road, and you want to spend time with them..GREAT !!! Or if you just want time off...GREAT!!! But earn your way back to the cup events. As good as they all ride...it shouldnt be a problem.....and if it is...well..then I guess someone else will take there spot, I think its called "COMPETITION"  Take Luke Snyder for example, he had a terrible year, how did he get to stay on the TV events??? Because he won a World title??? I think that there were plenty of other guys out there that were riding ALOT better than him !!!Anyway.....thats just me, Hope you all have a great New Year !!!  |
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Post by brianranse on Dec 31, 2005 21:24:36 GMT -5
ONEHOT cowboy you must not follow the sport real well.
Luke snyder earnt his way into those events he has never and i reapet never won a world title...
he won the average at the finals but that does not give him any special rights..
If someone wins a world title it takes a lot and even if they do compete in the cups they still dont get a shot at the big show in vegas unless they earn enough money...
How many guys use this rule anyway.... Dunny, cody hart and G-man... The others world champs are usually part of the top 45.... or retired...
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Take Luke Snyder for example, he had a terrible year, how did he get to stay on the TV events??? Because he won a World title??? I think that there were plenty of other guys out there that were riding ALOT better than him !!!Anyway.....thats just me, Hope you all have a great New Year !!! 