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Post by cowgirl4life30 on Nov 7, 2006 16:42:01 GMT -5
First of all, CONGRATS TO ADRIANO on a well DESERVED title!
Quite simply riding percents say it all... Adriano before finals=58%, Guillherme=60%... not much difference. Adriano did buck off some bulls... so did Guillherme. Like people said already, Adriano got the job done when he needed to.
Now, the little attitude... I am assuming the persont that started this has never seen Adriano in person and/or talked to him. I think you are mistaking "attitude" with CONFIDENCE. He is one of the NICEST guys on tour. It's a toss up between him and Cory Rasch for the most outgoing IMO. They are the ones you see talking and talking and talking to people. They ricipricate converstations and ask FANS questions. Don't judge people based on what you see on TV (esp. athletes).
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Post by Hotel Carolina Ranch on Nov 7, 2006 16:47:54 GMT -5
On having a least favorite rider: I could be wrong here, but I think many of us who visit the board don't have a least favorite rider. Or, a rider we routinely pull against. And I guess that's why this thread is getting so much play??
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Post by cowgirl4life30 on Nov 7, 2006 16:52:34 GMT -5
Adriano is my least favorite and i posted my opinion. i know all of you would be mad too if your least favorite won so dont mad at me for doing this cause once again i say you would do the same if your least favorite won. That is a very false statement. My least favorite riders HAVE won world championships and you didn't see me come bash them on a public board. Now, did I complain to my GOOD friends in a private converstation? Sure... but only in a half joking way. I HAVE never said someone shouldn't have won a title because obviously they rode the best when it mattered. I have never knocked a guys riding and will never do that. The guys I dislike are based on personality (in person, NOT tv), not riding ability. When they won the title, my only complaint was... "I wish so and so rode better and would have won instead" not "so and so didn't deserve it" That's a HUGE difference then what you have done. There is sharing your opinion and then bashing someone!!!! |
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Post by ChrisShiversFan on Nov 7, 2006 17:32:52 GMT -5
first of all i didnt "bash" anyone i just said he is my least favorite. also i have met adriano in person for those of you who said i havent. i just dont perfer him. now if you want to talk about "bashing" what do you think you are doing. i posted my opinion and what i believe and now everyone is "bashing" me. i never said anything really horrible. all i said was he had an attitude and doesnt deserve it. i NEVER said he is the worst rider ever and needs to retire because nobody likes him. i just dont like him. thats what i think. once again my opinion no one elses.
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Post by cowgirl4life30 on Nov 7, 2006 17:40:36 GMT -5
IMO saying someone doesn't derserve it is bashing him. If you can prove why he didn't then please do. He rode more bulls than anyone in the race at finals and has one of the highest riding percents for the year. How can you say he was given the title and didn't derserve it??? Is it simply because you don't like him?
When you state strong opinons about a rider in the PBR be prepared for disagreement. Everybody on this board has a favorite and when you put down a rider... you are going to piss off someone on this board. If you are no prepared for it, don't post it. It's nice to say you have a right to your opinion but know that people will argue with you. Also, when a post is titled.. "Not trying to be mean" then it will prolly get some arguements.
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Post by mlm18 on Nov 7, 2006 17:41:29 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more with cowgirl4life30. I don't have what I'd have a particular least favorite rider, though I do have some that I don't care much for. Three of them in particular have all won world titles. Like the afore mentioned I might say something to family to the regards of "I wish so-n-so would have won." or "Aw, I was pulling for so-n-so to win instead" or something along those lines. But I have never, nor will I ever go as low as to state, in public or in private, that I think that any rider has an attitude and didn't deserve to win. Even if it was someone I didn't like you wouldn't see me bashing them and saying they didn't deserve the title, I can guarantee you that.
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Post by ChrisShiversFan on Nov 7, 2006 17:53:32 GMT -5
ok whatever you people say. i knew i was going to get someone pissed off. i actually think its pretty funny the way everyone on here says things. i know i'm not standing alone. also everyone keeps saying i have the "wrong accounts" on adriano. actually no one has the "right" or "wrong" accounts on anyone because thats their opinion. so when you say i have the wrong opinion your actually wrong because opinions are never wrong or right. also if your call what i said on adriano "bashing" then i guess i did. but why all the sudden is it bad. i know other posts in the past that have said somethings worse then what i have. so i guess whenever it comes to me its bad all the sudden. go ahead and hate me. i know everyone will argue with my opinion and knew that when i was typing it. so go ahead and argue. if you didnt read the other post i did say i was sorry for starting a commotion and getting people mad but i guess all of you just read over that part and didnt care you just still wanted to fight.
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Post by cowgirl4life30 on Nov 7, 2006 18:41:08 GMT -5
I don't hate you... just don't like what you said. As far as other people saying worse things.. I am sure you're right but I am also sure people argued with them too.
Opinions are opinons but at the same time THEY CAN BE wrong esp. if you don't have reasoning. The fact you don't like Adriano isn't wrong or right that is a personal preference. However, saying he didn't deserve the title is wrong unless you can prove otherwise. I am still waiting for your evidence that suggests he didn't deserve it?!? Like I said one of the best riding percentages and having the best finals out of all contenders should mean he deserved it.
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Post by ChrisShiversFan on Nov 7, 2006 19:56:13 GMT -5
i tried to emplain why he didnt deserve it but then everyone kept saying "well thats the point system dont like it dont watch it" i truly did try and explain what i meant but nobody cared to listen and they all disagreed.
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Post by csb on Nov 7, 2006 20:07:28 GMT -5
I think the reason people jumped on you is because your statements had no logic. If you're going to start a thread with such strong opinions, you had better have an explanation - you didn't have one, you just rambled on about how he didn't deserve it and how your family hates the fact that he won.
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Post by rodeogal10077 on Nov 7, 2006 20:16:29 GMT -5
"Come on people get off of it, get along, or don't let the door hit you in the a s s."
I agree! What's done is done. Adriano wond the championship, whenther anyone likes it or not. It's just personal opinions here. Guilherme rode really great all year, but Adriano was the one who came out on top at the finals.
Most of the guys in the PBR are really nice people, Adriano included. So, whether anyone likes it or not, Adriano is the 2006 PBR world champion.
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Post by rossjustinfan on Nov 7, 2006 23:30:28 GMT -5
Whether or not Adriano is your "favorite rider" or the most deserving of the title, he did win and he won because he rode the most bulls. Like I had said in an earlier post, Ty/Justin/Craig all said that whoever rode the most bull, would be World Champion. I personally am glad that Adriano won. I think he rode great the first week-end , 3 bulls to Guilheme's 1. Yes there are bull riders that I wanted to see win more than Adriano, but my hat goes off to him because rode and got the job done. He didn't have anything to prove and there was no pressure on him to win and I think that is why he was able to relax/have fun and ride the way he did. CONGRATS TO ADRIANO.....2007 WORLD CHAMP.
As far as his attitude goes, he gets mad when he doesn't ride well as do the large majority of the riders..ie Chris,Ross,JW,Brendon have all said a few choice words and the sound mics have picked those up. I have never seen Adriano ever be mean or snub a fan whenever he is approached. He is truly a great rider and family man....loved it when he ran up to the stands to hug his wife and kids after his last ride and how emotional he got when he was presented the buckle.
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Post by mlm18 on Nov 8, 2006 4:34:36 GMT -5
i tried to emplain why he didnt deserve it but then everyone kept saying "well thats the point system dont like it dont watch it" i truly did try and explain what i meant but nobody cared to listen and they all disagreed. It is the point system. If your mad that Adriano won becuase he was having a sub-par season in your eyes and Guilherme was having a great one there is nothing to blame but the piont system. If your reasoning is that Guilherme was doing better than your problem is with the points system, not Adriano. If that truely is your problem, why didn't you come in here raving that Mike Lee didn't deserve the 2004 title? Mike won that world title the exact same way Adriano won this one. Maybe you said nothing because you like Mike better than Adraino, and you're happy he beat him in the finals? Seems like you have a double standard. What's oaky for one isn't for the other just because you don't them. I'm sure most everyone would agree with me, but if you went to an event and started asking all the riders about the new points system I could pretty much tell you that Adriano would be one the first riders to tell you he doesn't like it. He even said on TV during one of the days at the finals that he didn't like it and that it shouldn't be worth so much points. He saw the world title go slipping through his fingers in 2004 just like Guilherme did this year. He's no stranger to that pain. I heard rumors that even after Adriano won this years title he went and found Randy Bernard and said, "I still don't like this point system." You make it sound like its Adriano's fault he won, its not, its the points system, what was he supposed to do purposely buck off all his bulls and giftwrap the world title to Marchi? Would that have made you happy? Where is the honor for Marchi in that if he knew Adriano did that? Gone. Why even have a world finals if you know your best buddy is going to give it to you by throwing every bull. I don't like the points system either. But things have changed now, they're not how they used to be. And we all as fans are either going to have to get along with the new program or die along with old one. Change happens. In may be hard, painful, and unwated, but it is inevitiable. The point system changed and there's nothing you can do about that. Under the new points system (much as I dislike it) Adriano won fair and square, he did deserve it. As I said at the beginning, if your problem is that there were other people out there that were riding better than Adriano for the majority season and Adriano won anyway then your problem is with the points system. If you don't like the points system then your deep-rooted problem is with the PBR, not any rider who might win under the new circumstances, especially when they probably dislike the points system more than you. If you were in here raving about the points sytem and how you didn't like it, I'd be fine with that. But you weren't. Adriano had no control over what points he got when, wether he won a round or not, or what bulls he drew; he just rode his bulls. You have a problem with the points system take it up with the PBR executives (not that they'd care what you had to say), but leave out the riders, who from no fault of their own, won under these circumstances. Its not they're fault they won. |
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Post by jamiesjustapbrfan on Nov 8, 2006 7:15:37 GMT -5
I'm sorry your right I should not have brought Chris into this but it was kind of an easy target considering the other person's screen name and I was extremely upset by the comments that that person was making. I really do wish Chris had had a better finals but I guess there's always next year right?
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Post by jamiesjustapbrfan on Nov 8, 2006 7:28:22 GMT -5
"Adriano is my least favorite and i posted my opinion. i know all of you would be mad too if your least favorite won so dont mad at me for doing this cause once again i say you would do the same if your least favorite won. "
IMO wether my favorite rider, my middle of the road riders, or my least favorite rider or the rider that I absolutely hate won the World Title I would be happy for them cause I know they worked there ass off for it.
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