NoGeeksPls
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Post by NoGeeksPls on Jan 19, 2009 20:49:37 GMT -5
I read elsewhere that Casey Hayes was fined $7,500 for throwing his face mask at the bull.
True?
I hope it is. He made such an idiot of himself.
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Post by teagan on Jan 19, 2009 23:13:16 GMT -5
It's absolutely true. Ty wrote a blog about it. Most of the fans are in agreement with the punishment, but there are a few that think it's overboard.
I happen to agree with it, but wonder if JB got a fine at the finals (in 2007, I think) when he came this close to hitting a crew member while throwing his helmet (as hard as he could).
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Post by carisouth42 on Jan 20, 2009 0:31:47 GMT -5
I agree that what Kasey did was completely uncalled for. but on the other hand I think the fine was excessive. One of the reasons that bull riding is fun to watch is that it is real. I'd hate to see it turn out like nascar, where they have to remain "correct" no matter what. I used to be a huge nascar fan but I kind of gave it up. It is an extreme sport, and emotions are going to show. anyway, just my 2 cents.
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Post by CThrash13 on Jan 20, 2009 1:04:53 GMT -5
I agree that what Kasey did was completely uncalled for. but on the other hand I think the fine was excessive. I would have been ok if the fine was $20,000. This situation goes much deeper than the things that happen in Nascar. Guys are fined for saying curse words in interviews, and the fines for those types of things is silly. When it comes to what Kasey did, it brings in many other things including the always-loved PETA organization. I can use common sense in saying that what Kasey did isn't going to hurt a 2,000 pound animal, but it can sure fuel fires from outside sources such as PETA, etc. They will take anything and run with it, and things like that won't ever help the sport of bull riding in the mainstream media. Comparing the PBR fine for Kasey Hayes to anything that happens in Nascar isn't really on the point at all. Kudos to the PBR for instantly announcing a fine, and like I said above, it wouldn't have hurt my feelings to see the fine be two or three times as much.
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teagan
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Post by teagan on Jan 20, 2009 1:17:25 GMT -5
Exactly. I posted something similar to this on another board. My first thought is that he was just messing around and it went too far (because of the way he was smiling afterward), but if anger management classes are in order, then I guess I was wrong.
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Post by k9stylist1968 on Jan 23, 2009 15:19:45 GMT -5
I would have to agree that the fine is appropriate. With groups like PeTA and HSUS and other radical AR groups gaining more and more power (and California is PeTA's favorite state since most of their supporters are there), AND with our wonderful (choking on that word) new president appointing a very well-spoken (translation: DANGEROUS to animal lovers especially those who love animal sports) AR Radical to the position of "Regulatory Czar" (overseeing OSHA, EPA, and USDA to name a few), the PBR was absolutely right in acting swiftly and definitively against any act that COULD be viewed as "abuse" by rational people who would then jump on the ARA's bandwagon and get the sport legislated right out of existence. Our new "Czar" is already focusing on greyhound racing and horse racing; I'm sure bull riding/rodeo are in his lunatic sights, too....
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Post by jaye on Jan 24, 2009 21:33:25 GMT -5
I don't think you can in any way compare greyhound racing to bull riding. I am no AR activist, but there are animal sports out there that obviously need some regulating since the owners of said animals are not willing to do it themselves. Fortunately for us, the bulls are treated like royalty for the most part as they should be.
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Post by k9stylist1968 on Jan 25, 2009 18:12:59 GMT -5
It IS an absolutely fair assessment to compare horse and dog racing propaganda attacks to what PeTA, et al claim against bull riding/rodeo. The majority of racing greyhounds are treated as the elite animal athletes they are; the ones you hear about where the kennel owners slaughter hundreds of dogs or abandon them at closed tracks are the exception, just as are the incidents the PeTArds like to publicize about bulls being injured and left standing in the pen for hours with broken legs. Top racing greyhounds are just as well-cared for as top bucking bulls; they could not perform otherwise. The only big difference is the fact that dogs produce many more offspring at a time; therefore there is going to be a higher number of culls than in bucking bulls. Many culled pups (at least here in Kansas when there were tracks) end up at veterinary schools, used to educate future veterinarians in surgical procedures, etc. To say that ALL greyhound racing should be banned (which is what the PeTArds want to do with that sport as well as horse racing, and YES, bull riding) because of a handful of unethical breeding kennels or tracks is 100% wrong. But that is what those who drink the Kool-Aid fed by AR propaganda against are doing--whether the propaganda is about our favorite animal sport or another. Genuine abuse DOES happen in all animal sports, but not at the top levels--and those who abuse/neglect their stock never succeed becaus their stock doesn't perform. Pretty much self-regulating I would say....
PeTA, et al (and they're gonna be even more dangerous due to president's new appointee) aren't out to "regulate" anything; they want a total BAN on all human ownership of, breeding of, use of, enjoyment of, consumption of... animals or animal products in ANY capacity. And they love to use isolated incidents to "prove" rampant abuse.
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Post by Barney Rubble on Jan 25, 2009 18:54:04 GMT -5
We've got some dog racers around here & a pretty big dog track. I've yet to see the "deplorable" treatment that the AR groups claim exist. I'm not a follower of the sport, but have no problem with it. It is a sport that at one time gave animal sports a black eye, deservedly or not I am not sure, but what I've seen of it is a much cleaner and more compassionate sport than many would have you believe. The dog grooming lady is right on point with this one.
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Post by jaye on Jan 25, 2009 18:58:31 GMT -5
I am not going to get in a debate with you about greyhound racing. Half of my family is from Florida where it is a big business. All I'll say is that these "culls" very rarely go to noble research facilities at least not down there. Since this is a forum about bulls and bull riding, I'll leave it at that.
I agree that PETA doesn't need any further ammunition, so unfortunate that it may be that Kasey was fined so steeply, it does reflect the fact that the PBR provides a high standard of care for its animal athletes.
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Post by bigapplebullfan on Jan 27, 2009 21:09:07 GMT -5
Kasey's act has been discussed alot on the TeamPBr Board. Most of us felt that the fine was definatley warrented but some people disagreed about the amount and the anger classes. I felt it was justified and I agree with Justin that Kasey has handled the situation well and it will probably be a good thing for all the guys to see the swift action on the part of the conduct comittee. I think its a learning lesson for all and it makes sure that PETA has no ammunition to use in future. Kasey's riding well, so He seems to have taken it in stride.
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