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Post by diamondsanddollars on Aug 2, 2005 18:04:16 GMT -5
Okay everyone whats your take on how the season is gonna look like in the bull riding now that the CBR counts towards the world standings?
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Post by cowboytodd25 on Aug 2, 2005 19:12:03 GMT -5
i think it is great!!!!!!!!! i Think.....I guess i dont have any emotions towards that. After all aren't the same guys doing the prca and the cbr? What do they have to gain or better yet lose.
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Post by csb on Aug 2, 2005 19:56:06 GMT -5
Obviously there is more money involved, and more guys can get to the NFR with the new CBR/PRCA system. Matt Austin is the best bull rider on the planet right now, and the new system has helped him quite a bit.
I thought there were supposed to be 4-5 events with $100,000 added money but so far I think there has only been one (Bossier City) Austin Meier would be in the top 20 had that big win counted towards the PRCA earnings.
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Post by BucknSpin on Aug 3, 2005 11:26:49 GMT -5
Okay everyone whats your take on how the season is gonna look like in the bull riding now that the CBR counts towards the world standings? How and when did this joint venture occur? |
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Post by Gus on Aug 3, 2005 12:01:23 GMT -5
I might be mistaken, but I think only Tuff's events count in both the CBR and PRCA standings. The other CBR events don't count. I know Cody Hancock won the Lane Frost Memorial CBR event and that money didn't count in PRCA.
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Post by diamondsanddollars on Aug 3, 2005 23:24:01 GMT -5
for now only tuff's events count but from what I have heard is that over half if not all the cbr events next year will count towards prca standings as well as the extreme's but if you have noticed, they have cut the number of extremes down from what there was when they first incorporated them.
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Post by pbrbigfan on Aug 6, 2005 8:51:30 GMT -5
That's because the Extreme Bulls tour has been a money-loser for the PRCA and not a money-maker and the new commisioner wants to get rid of them. I'm not sure about this CBR/PRCA thing. I know that the PRCA likes control of how things are done and so does Tuff. There have been several conflicts about how things have been done for those venues. I don't think the PRCA will give up that much control to the CBR. But who knows, I could be wrong.
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Post by Gus on Aug 6, 2005 12:36:36 GMT -5
From what I hear, the future of Xtreme Bulls is dependent upon a title sponsor stepping up. If that doesn't happen, then an expansion of the CBR/PRCA relationship might become more likely.
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Post by Gus on Aug 6, 2005 13:06:20 GMT -5
There's also this little tidbit from the PRCA Board meeting minutes:
"Troy E. explained that we had lost $3 million on bull riding in the last three years, but we will break even this year because of the deal we worked out with Winnercomm. We have a proposal to license it for $500,000. There was some discussion about a proposal from the PBR; whether they would go by the PRCA rule book exclusively; what monitary guarantees there would be."
Sounds like Commissioner Ellerman and Randy Bernard have had some conversations as well.
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Post by WI8SecFan on Aug 8, 2005 21:24:10 GMT -5
First the original question of the CBR and the Xtreame bulls now being part of the NFR qualifying money. I have really mixed reactions to this one. On the one hand I love that the guys are getting the opportunity at a good chunk of extra cash. Anything that puts more money in the contestants pockets I think is a good thing. They have also done a very good job with the events pulling some of the best bulls. It is great for the fans to watch and has also pulled in some "Bull Riding Fans Only" into the PRCA. It has also helped get them some TV exposure.
On the other hand the set-up of the system has also made it possible for a guy to win only a few events and make it to the NFR. The average first place finisher has made roughly $18,000.00 in the Xtreame Bulls this year. If you think that last year the 15th guy to make the finals had just under 75,775.00 that means a guy could conceivably make the finals off of Xtreame Bulls and CBR alone. In some ways it is creating the elite system we see in the PBR.
The one thing that the PRCA has not done a good job of that the CBR has done really well and could help with is the promotion of the events. I think part of the reason they have lost money is they have not promoted the events or made it easy for fans to find information regarding the events. The partnership may provide the missing marketing they need.
There has been murmurs of this for a while now. I saw an interview with Randy several months ago where he also alluded to a joint PBR PRCA event. It would be great to see and sign me up for tickets too!!
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Post by Gus on Aug 9, 2005 15:21:18 GMT -5
I'll be in the front of the line for tickets if that happens, as well.
If PRCA plans to continue its bull riding tour, I hope the first thing it does is get a better TV deal so we aren't seeing events held in June or earlier on TV in October. It's nice they're on ESPN, but it's ridiculous to have such a delay.
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Post by BucknSpin on Aug 10, 2005 13:03:55 GMT -5
I agree with you about the delay in airing an event long after it's been held. I really think they could do a better job of getting the events aired sooner. Same with all the other PRCA events. I mean, here we are in prime rodeo season and we gotta wait until September before they start airing the summer series on TV! ESPN and OLN both do this and I can't figure out if it's because they can't fit it into their schedules until then, or if this is dictated by the PRCA. Maybe so they can keep the hype rolling all thru fall and into the Finals??
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