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Post by overit on Nov 4, 2007 0:32:52 GMT -5
It was great to hear Hummer comment on Justin's scores being padded. I thought Friday night's high score was a fluke of judgment but nope.....same thing again Saturday night when things were tight and 8 seconds of being completely out of shape gave another round winner! What a joke. I guess Canter's score should have been in the high 90s to low hundreds based on Justin's score. Fair competition is great but we've all seen a referee call a game a little "one sided". All competitors ride on a PBR standard scale while Justin rides on a sliding scale to make sure he's helped into the short go. Marchi had the title taken once when he never slapped that bull last year. The top riders have scratched and clawed their way to earn their spot.....Keep it fair or just forget the finals and hand the money and all over to the golden boy with a wink and a million dollars worth of learning what it means to be humble instead of acting and being treated like someone who knows all. I'm sick of the repeated interviews with the same old lack of intelligence jargon. Good thing they are padding the scores or he might have to get a real job or maybe some common sense. Get mad all you want but the kid just has NOT paid his dues and that's a bad example and unfair advantage not only for others in the sport but for every child that aspires to be in the PBR. Think about it.
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Post by tanner on Nov 4, 2007 4:34:40 GMT -5
justins score on bad action was right on the money i believe, that bull was double rank, it would of been tuff as hell 2 get by on it, that ride was better then the one on scene of the crash and it was 93, he has well and truly paid his dues, look how good he is, u dont get that good ova night buddy, u must of neva been on a bull, hey as if marchi's score on grey dog was worth that. he does deserve 2 win the world but not this yr no way, mcbride should b the world champ this yr n i hope he is.
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Post by rodeogal10077 on Nov 4, 2007 9:18:28 GMT -5
I was really surprised at Justin's score on Sat. I thought that it was a lot more than what was deserved. I'm not a judge and I never claimed to be, but Tater Porter and Matt Bohon both made amazing rides that night, and I think those rides should have won the go-around. I think there could be some favoritism going on... and it seems that judges are more inclined to score rides higher at the end of the night... I was happy though, that the commentators talked a little about it. It seemed like they didn't want to say that the judges were wrong on television, but they seemed to agree that the score was too high. As for Justin though, he doesn't want any of this. I mean, yeah, he wants to win the world title, but from what I've seen of Justin McBride, he wants to win it on his own, without any help from the judges. He can't do anything about it though. All he can do is ride all of his bulls. Justin has nothing to do with the judging.
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Post by cowboy4443 on Nov 4, 2007 9:19:58 GMT -5
Just put on your marketing hat; it say's it all. Everytime a Brazilian wins, sales drop. Don't believe me, just look at the track record. McBride is an excellent rider, but Marchi at 2nd place World Champion for 3 years... give me a break...
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Post by NoGeeksPls on Nov 4, 2007 10:26:57 GMT -5
I am glad to see this discussion here also. I posted on Fried Twinkies (starting with comment 145) about this very thing.
If Friday nights ridiculous scoring of McBride was not blatant enough, then Saturday nights took the cake. I am NO fan of the brazilians, but for goodness sakes, Marchi had a much better ride.
Justin only has to stay on to get 90+ ride.
I think I will become a fan of Wrestling, seems like a more "honest"sport.......
If I was not sitting here in Vegas waiting to head to Thomas and Mack, I seriously doubt I would bother watching it on TV.
That coming from me is really astounding.
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Post by csb on Nov 4, 2007 20:36:42 GMT -5
Only if your last name is McBride can you do the day money drag and get marked a full point over your bull. But, he who rides the most should win the most, and Justin was the best bull rider all year regardless of how much they Merry Christmas'ed him. He didnt deserve the points, but he deserved the buckle. As for Justin paying his dues, he has been playing the game for a good while and it doesnt matter how much they inflate his scores to boost ratings, because the guy that rides the most bulls during the season should be the guy winning the world.
The bucking bull of the year (read: bucking bull of the finals) was also skewed. The race shouldnt come down to three outs, otherwise all the others are for naught. Big Bucks fired every night, I didnt think COAC fired with Clayton. Maybe Im just partial to the ones they cant warm up, I dont know.
Marchi slapped his bull last year, plain as day. Ray Charles could have seen it.
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Post by rossco4worldchamp on Nov 5, 2007 9:49:00 GMT -5
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one to notice that. As Jamie and I were watching the final round last night, I was so upset to see that his score poorly reflected the ride. And by that I mean, ½ way decent ride and a big score. Let’s give some of the other guys a chance. I realize that it’s easy to get caught up in the whole crowning the world champion and all, but come on!
Enough said. I think they’ve been padded all year. Granted, he’s had a couple good rides and he sticks to everything, I think people like him and cannot separate personal feelings from professional scores.
IMO.
I’m done, I swear…
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Post by rossco4worldchamp on Nov 5, 2007 9:51:48 GMT -5
I think I will become a fan of Wrestling, seems like a more "honest" sport....... Just noticed this-LMAO! Sadly, I kind of agree...
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Post by jamiesjustapbrfan on Nov 5, 2007 10:24:53 GMT -5
Craig Hummer get's 6 gold stars from me! He's my new best friend! There is NO Way that half of Justin's scores were worth 90+ points! Heck I think that if they put Justin on my uncles bull taz, who thinks he's a dog that moo's, they'd probably give him at least 150 for a leisurely walk around the cow yard! I agree with Ashley when she said that McBride's scores have been padded all year. I just think that the PBR has made him their new "Golden Child" and are not scoring his rides with an unbiased opinion.
As for not being a fan of the Brazilian's. Everyone is entitled to there own opinion, but 9 qualified for the finals and 4 went on to qualify for the Championship round. That's got to mean something, they just don't hand out 15 spots to just anybody. I have met both Guilherme Marchi and Justin McBride - I haven't met JB yet at any of the events that we've been to - and I'll take Guilherme's smiling pretty much all the time demeanor over Justin's more elusive personality any day. But then again that's just me and my opinion.
The bull of the year was determined by the bull's score. I kinda like the new system for determining the bull of the year but that's just me.
On the finals in general? Hell towards the end of the event yesterday the uneventful Nascar race that Ashley and I were watching on commerical breaks was more honest than the finals!
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Post by jamiesjustapbrfan on Nov 5, 2007 10:29:38 GMT -5
What pissed me off more than padding his scores was how they announced that he had won it before everybody had ridden in Championship round and the last few rides were almost overlooked cause Justin won again.
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Post by Hotel Carolina Ranch on Nov 5, 2007 17:21:17 GMT -5
Justin's ride Saturday was far better than Friday nights ride. I didn't agree with Friday at all.
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Post by overit on Nov 6, 2007 1:23:33 GMT -5
First the NHL locked out, changed the rules to make it virtual figure skating, took the passion out of the game and ruined something that I could not get enough of. That moved the PBR up to priority while I wait on the NHL to heal......looking for honest hard working athletes ready to give blood, sweat, and tears. Then the PBR starts to get all discombobulated with new rules and freebies and judging McBride in "dog points" (1 other rider point = 7 Justin points). Every interview looks like a cardboard standup with the same lack of verbal ability each time. My understanding was that there were to be 44 other riders at the finals but maybe they were at a different venue! lol Now with the quest for action and excitement I have turned to the UFC and cagefighting until the stakes get so high that the judges are swayed and/or competition turns theatrical like the WWF! To further burn my back side.....the PBR website is covered in ads for McBride's new "music cd". Can't wait to run out and buy that. I just wonder how his personality of a rock will translate musically. Somehow I get the feeling it would be a painful experience and something I would not listen to even for ownership of Chicken on a Chain! It just all became so ridiculous I had to start laughing to try and over ride my disgust of the big picture! BTW........if anyone ever deserved that buckle and money it's JW Hart. What a down to earth professional and humble competitor. I'll prolly need to blow off more steam later and I'm loving the feedback we're getting on this thread. thanks everyone (no matter what opinion you have it's great).
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Post by sistersue on Nov 6, 2007 2:53:33 GMT -5
I think the judges are basically honest but I'm sure they want an American cowboy to win. Just remember, out of 14 world championships non-American guys won 5 of them.
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Post by overit on Nov 6, 2007 3:06:33 GMT -5
I'm sure you have a valid point and if it is in fact true, maybe the PBR should only let Americans be members of the PBR. Maybe they want to keep the money and advertising dollars in the States. The Superbowl is strictly American teams but they call the winner the "World Champions". Some food for thought for the integrity of the PBR. If they want an American cowboy to win, then limit the players to Americans. It's become so commercialized and so much money is involved it is almost expected that some level of corruption will arise. Does anyone think that McBride will donate a tiny portion of that mound of money to the recovering Lee Akin? That type of thing would be a positive sign of character and gratitute.
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Post by mlm18 on Nov 6, 2007 5:15:37 GMT -5
I do agree that PBR probably does want an American to win, that's the way it seems anyway, especially with the sometimes askew judging and if they loose money whenever a foreigner wins. However, whats been done is done, I don't think PBR can really change it now to make the company open to Americans only. If the PBR was founded on being Americans only that'd be one thing but doing so now would be nothing short of a slap in the face for every foreigner currently in the PBR.
Side note, I agree that all of Justin's scores for the finals, and perhaps the whole year, have been inflated.
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