The Brazilians are coming!!!

[zac009]

Just a thread to stir the water a littil what do yall think. I received my copy of probullrider the other day and it has an article about the Brazil boys.
" THE BRAZILIANS ARE COMING " Any one have any idea why they are coming in the masses and why there are so many of them? I know i live near the Texas Mexico border in South Tex. The border patrol is capturing them taking their names and giving them a court date and turning them loose in our country to do what ever they like. Like not showing up for their court date. I have a buddy in the patrol says he's caught several brazilians with gearbag in tow to go ride bulls in the U.S.A. They ride in the open rodeos and bullridings where they receive their earnings in cash and Uncle Sam dont know about it . Get up enough money and apply for citizenship. Just a littil facts for yall wondering where and how in the hell are these Brazilians getting into our country..

[wycowboy]

Yeah, I know there's a lot of them in the PBR and other events. I don't think it's right flying to a PBR event, winning and then flying back. I think if you want to ride in the USA you should be a US citizen. If they want to get a citizenship that fine but they shouldn't be able to just come, take the money, and go. I don't mind them riding in the PBR or other events, they are good but I think they should at least be US citizens. But that's just what I think. God Bless

[mlm18]

I got the pro-bull rider magazine myself a while ago, though I just started reading it yesterday. I flipped through the magazine and saw the article you are speaking of, but I haven't gotten to read it yet.
Personally, I don't have a problem with foreigners riding in the PBR (or participating in any other sport for that matter). I think it would be a little racist if it was a requirement that all PBR bull riders had to be a US citizen.

[pbrbigfan]

The difference between the Brazillians riding in the PBR and the ones that zac009 is talking about is that they do things the right way. They get their work visas and enter legally on those and they do pay taxes also. Not only here but in their country too. These men have gone through the proper channels and didn't sneak across the border. Troy Dunn isn't a US citizen. Neither is Rob Bell, BJ Kramps, Reuben G. or Jared Farley as well as some others. Some of these men do live here for a majority of the year and contribute to the economy in the US. While I know that some of the Brazillians don't do things right all the time, it's not fair to say that any of these men shouldn't be able to ride bulls and then go home. It's their money. Would you want people telling you how to spend yours?

[CThrash13]

Yeah, as long as they are paying taxes just like everyone else who earns money in the US, then I'm fine with it. But if they are just coming and earning money, then going and doing their own thing, I could do without them.

But it seems like most of the PBR guys do things the right way, so I'm fine with it.

But could they please learn to speak English? That is silly that they ride professionally in the United States but can't speak the same language. That really creates a lot of barriers, and learning a few words in English can't be that tough can it?

That is my only complaint.

[Gus]

Cody, I think you make a valid point and one the PBR should be taking seriously. What's going to happen when Adriano retires and won't be around to translate for these guys? Will PBR be more comparable to Formula 1 than to NASCAR: still a sport at its highest level but one dominated by foreign drivers. The bad part of that is you lose your U.S. audience and if you lose the audience, you lose the sponsors.

Maybe and ESL program is needed in the PBR.

[pbrbigfan]

I understand what you guys are saying, but some of these guys haven't been in this country for very long. It's not that easy to just pick up and learn a new language. Adriano spoke NO English when he came here in 1992/93. It took him a while to be fluent. Ednei is pretty fluent in English but his wife speaks great English and I think that helps him. I remember one time when one of the first sentences somebody (can't remember who) taught Ednei was "I ride like sh**". It was pretty funny. Paulo is fluent in English now but it took him a while too. I'm sure that these guys are trying the best that they can. Give them a little while. If they stay here, they will probably pick up the language. I know Adriano pushes them to learn as much English as quickly as possible.

[cowboytodd25]

I have to step in here. It is not only bullriding it is racing formula 1, indy not so much in nascar, it is very prominent in baseball hence all the interpeters. I really dont care wwhat they do what they speak or any of that as long as they keep us entertained. I believe it is just as hard to understand the aussies as it is to understand the "Soakers". Oh well that is my take. Really do we want to hear all the broken up english and hear them talk lets just stick to shivers and mcbride and lee.

[NCWEST]

It is a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP, not USA.. Rob Bell just married a girl from LA. and lives here, now

[wycowboy]

I see your point guys. like I said I don't mind them but like Cody said it would be nice for them to speek a little English. God Bless

[TNBullRidinGirl]

I like their ropes lol. God bless yall!

Nat

[onehotcowboy]

Well...this may or may not be off the topic, but my fellings are, that if you want to work and EARN money here in the USA...you should speak the language. Its bad enough that all of our jobs are going across seas, but when these people come over here..WE as american citizens have to accomendate them. EX: If you want to get a job on the east coast as a fulltime firefighter, emt, police officer....you have to be bi-lingual. I know of alot of formans that have to learn other languages, cuz of the employees that cant speak english. To me...that is total bull$hit. But.....that is just me....... . Why do WE have to accomendate them? The vietmeese come over here and live 7yrs tax free, why? I feel that if your a born here american....your gettin the shaft by foriegners, then they come here and blow stuff up.........i dont know.....but it does upset me.....

[megz07]

hmm...sounds like theres a loop hole in the system...a big one at that.
I think i agree with you. If we have to learn foreign languages they should too. Geesh...im learning spanish in highschool..blah....so i can really relate...they need to learn english...besides isnt English the "international language" anyways??? COME ON...im tired of homework...im begging...really!
Okay heres a suggestion... Its their money if they win it right...they have the choice of going home, spending, saving for citizenship or whatever...well maybe if your not a citizen then you should have to give a certain amount of your earnings to be "putting in". If they arent paying taxes and we have to, i think that would at least be courteous of them. Like a "thankyou", you know?

[mlm18]

I'm not sure if English is the "International Language" or not, if it isn't I'm probably going to say its Spanish. Keep in mind that the English language is considered the hardest language to learn how to speak, I'm sure they're learning, but it's going to take them a while. Even in the United States it is not required that you know a secondary language. If you want to get into college you need to have credits in foreign language, but if you have no plans on that, and only wish to finish high school a second language is not required to graduate. As far as the taxes, does anyone know for 100% sure that they are not paying their taxes, or is this another assumption?

[megz07]

maybe its not international...but its definitely close and most widely used. Im sure most of these guys are trying their best to learn (maybe) and i know that english is a hard language to learn...ha heck even WE have to learn english in school and college! lol. but im talking about...not just the guys in the pbr/rodeo...i just think any foreigners that dont know the english language... and are NOT trying to learn it..and ARE trying to get a job here in the U.S. that plan on staying awhile thats expecting their U.S. employer to learn their language... well that is just plum bananas! thats like sayin "hey im gonna come here and your gonna pay me AND learn MY language" like onehotcowboy said " Why do WE have to accomendate them? " even if we arent required to be bilingual in general...some jobs that we want EXPECT us to be. that can actually put you out of job now couldnt it? Now...idk if these are assumptions...im basically basing my opinions on what has been said throughout this thread....but there is a "big little" word here..."IF". IF these guys are not trying to learn...if these guys are not pitching in to the economy of which theyre benefiting from and if they do plan on continuing or staying here...then in my opinion it is very disrespectful to the people who HAVE to learn the language, who have to pay taxes and pitch in to the economy. Otherwise IF these are trying and are pitching in and what not...i have no problem and in fact i invite them! ;D