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Post by ragingbull456 on Jan 9, 2006 18:13:05 GMT -5
The youngest brother of Adriano Moraes faces an indefinite suspension after cutting Coyote with his spur Sunday at the Worcester Classic. The PBR board is scheduled to rule on the mater, according to Moraes and one of the bull's co-owners. More info on blog at www.friedtwinkies.com.
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Post by HThrash on Jan 9, 2006 18:31:15 GMT -5
Oh my goodness, that is awful!!
Do you think it was intentional?
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Post by rossjustinfan on Jan 9, 2006 18:40:26 GMT -5
I don't think he would do it intentionally. I thought the cowboys spurs had rounded edges so they could not cut the bulls. I thought I had heard one of the annoucers saying something about that last year. I could be wrong though. Coyote is one of my favorite bulls and I hope he is going to be alright and I hope that Alan did not do it on purpose cause he is also a favorite of mine.
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Post by WI8SecFan on Jan 9, 2006 19:37:21 GMT -5
The cowboys are required to wear rounded spurs that can only turn a set amount (I can never remember if it is a 1/4 or 3/4 turn but I am sure others can clarify). Having spurs that are sharp is dangerous to the animal and also gives the rider an unfair advantage and is therefore illegal. It will be interesting to see how the ruling goes.
If it was found that Moraes was intentionally sharpening his spurs I believe a more serious fine then just sitting out until the animal returns should be in place. Don't get me wrong I love watching Allan ride but sharpening spurs to that point puts everyone in the arena at risk including the animals. If you ban a guy for a year for missing an event, putting everyone in the arena at risk should receive more then a slap on the wrist.
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Post by onehotcowboy on Jan 9, 2006 21:47:33 GMT -5
There's no rules stating that rowels have to be locked. Riders do it so that it does not spin freely, if it does, you cant get a good hold with them, they would just spin and you would lose your grip. However, they do let them roll like a 1/4 turn so that they have some give in them, so they dont get a solid hold either, thats a good way to pull your groin muscle's. Most of your bullriding rowels have like a mushroom head on them to help get ahold of the hide. They are dull, not supposed to have any sharp edges on them. The bulls hide is VERY tough, it takes ALOT to cut them. Anybody that has ever wore bullhide boots can verify that.
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Post by fritter on Jan 9, 2006 21:48:49 GMT -5
Bull riders have 5 pointed rowels, in the shank of the spur there is a small hole that we run a piece of wire through so the rowels do not turn but only that small amount in between the points. As for sharpening rowels, you don't want them too sharp it doesn't do you any good. You want them where they will grab a hold of the bull, if you have them too sharp they will cut the bull. When they cut the bull the rider isn't able to get a hold of the bull, instead the riders feet just slide up the side of the bull as it cuts him. As for the bull, it's not that big a deal. They will put some medicine on the cut but it's usually just a flesh wound.
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Post by rossco4worldchamp on Jan 9, 2006 22:03:26 GMT -5
I don't think it was intentional.If he did it intentionaly you know who he'd have to report to-Adriano. That looks bad for all of the Brazillians, again, because of when Ednei was called for it. It also makes the Moraes family look bad, so you know Adriano will have a thing or two to say about it. . .
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Post by chrisshiversluver on Jan 9, 2006 22:08:34 GMT -5
Fritter...im sorry but this shouldnt have happened in the first place. A cut that is 18 inches long, and deep is a big deal, especially to the stock contractors...think of the money they are losing. Obviously the spur had to be sharp to cut a bulls hide that deep, and a spur just doesnt get sharp on its own. I trust the PBR to do the right thing though, i hope if it is found that he did it intentionally the give him the harshest punishment as possible. I dont tollerate "accidents" like this...they make me really mad!
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Post by onehotcowboy on Jan 9, 2006 22:16:53 GMT -5
From what I understand, it was 18 inches long, and very deep. They even had to stitch it. The vet said it would take a scalpul, 3-4 tries to get it that deep. I read that on Probullstats.
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Post by WI8SecFan on Jan 9, 2006 22:26:18 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification on the spining rowles as well. For some reason I was thinking it was a rule and not a prefrence. If the wound is as bad as reported the rowles had to be very sharp.
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Post by rossco4worldchamp on Jan 9, 2006 22:28:04 GMT -5
I agree, if they find that it was intentional, he should be fined, suspended even worse. I agree. I am all for the equal treatment of animals. For a long time I didn't believe in Bull riding because I had heard rumors about how they hurt the bulls to make them mean. Once I saw how the bulls are treated like kings, I obviously changed my mind. If anybody hurts those bulls intentionally, they deserve what they get. #madtapfoot#
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Post by LovePBR on Jan 9, 2006 23:58:17 GMT -5
hmmmm.... Don't quite know what to think about all this. If it weren't for this site I wouldn't know about it at all.
I looked @ the friedtwinkies site but I am never able to find the "news" stuff that everyone says is there.
I do hope he didn't hurt the bull too bad (though it sounds pretty bad, I like that bull too, poor little guy) and I certainly hope he didn't intend to hurt the bull, though & I don't but if you didn't want to hurt any animals why would you allow your spurs to be sharp sharp like that?
Maybe Judge Judy could help them decide? (just being funny! ha! ha!, although it isn't a funny situation.) Judge Judy is a mean old gal she could line those bullriders out about the "spur rules!"
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Post by csb on Jan 10, 2006 1:39:18 GMT -5
Edgard Oliveira was popped last season for using sharp rowels. 18 inch long cuts dont just "happen" because of rowels. If you have ever ran a rowel across your hand you know what Im talking about.
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Post by cowboyup1991 on Jan 10, 2006 2:52:47 GMT -5
i think it was intentional. i mean they all pull their ropes to tight so what does a "little" cut matter?
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Post by WI8SecFan on Jan 10, 2006 9:41:33 GMT -5
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